Universalis

The Visitation of the Blessed Virgin Mary

In Visitatione Beatae Mariae Virginis
The Visitation of the Blessed Virgin Mary

Mass with Gregorian Chant

31 May 2006 (Wed)
7.30 pm

Chapel (3rd Floor Parish Building)
Church of Sts Peter and Paul
222 Queen Street

Parallel Latin-English translation provided

Schola Cantorum Sancti Gregorii Magni
Archdiocesan Liturgical Music Committee

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

well done schola last night.

if something is worth doing, it's worth doing properly- not referring to the music but to the Latin. My ears were wrecked. Latin read with little understanding, not practised... is not conducive.

Perhaps the faithful also need some instruction - the 2 in front of me insisted on singing the cantor's parts, out of tune, and late, and read the whole of the the mass out loud. It detracted a lot.

And a thought provoking question- why the push on Latin when most people can't udnerstand it? harking back to old times for the sake of what? Interesting so many young people were there.

Finally the whole mass does NOT have to be chanted. The Latin would have been less painful had it not been flogged through chanting.

Br Lawrence, O.P. said...

It's been said often enough here and elsewhere: the use of Latin per se, independent of the intention behind this one occasion, is not "harking back to old times"!

Your first question has some validity but the conclusion you draw is a non sequiter...

Anonymous said...

shurely shome mishtake..... go back to Kennedy...
non sequitur???
sequor of course is a deponent verb.

I don't think I had a conclusion.

Norman said...

thanks so much, anonymous, for coming.

We certainly learnt a lot from this first mass, and the next will have some of the problems solved, and issues thought through more clearly.

Daniel said...

This was taken from a book called "The New Question Box" by Fr John J Dietzen, a compilation of questions and answers from his regular column in the Catholic News Service. It's a bit outdated (10 years old), but it reflects a phenomenon that occurred in the U.S. then, and seems to be occurring in Singapore now:

"During recent years, numerous parishes have decided to schedule a regular Latin Mass at the request of some Catholics who express a nostalgia about the way things used to be. At first, memories of beautiful Latin chants, hymns and high Masses may attract a fair number of Catholics. in a short time, however, nostalgia wears thing and the people realise that their appreciation of the Mass and the importance of their personal participation has changed and grown considerably since the old days. The limitations of a Eucharistic Liturgy in a foreign language, even in the new rite, appear quite clearly and the Latin Mass experiment is abandoned."

Anonymous said...

Daniel,

I assure you what was happening ten years ago is not what is happening to
Singapore now. I personally know the people who are pushing for the "Latin Mass"
here in the archdiocese. As far as I know, all of them have waited basically
forever for the return of the "Latin Mass". I would not write them off as a mere
"phenomenon". If it was out of simple nostalgia, they would have long given up.
These are people who have roman chausables, black cassocks and surplices in
their closets, altars ready at their homes, waiting for the mere sign of a FSSP
priest to come before joyfully breaking them out.

Moreover, the "Latin Mass experiment" is far from abandoned in the US. FSSP
Apostolates are growing and spreading at enormous rates. Both FSSP seminaries
are at bursting point. Aspirants have to be put on a waiting list. Even the
seminarians to local dioceses come from FSSP parishes and apostolates. I have
yet to even include the Institute of Christ the King. I cannot say the same for
the local diocese. As far as I can remember, 6 new local seminarians is counted
as "a bumper crop". I would not account for the statistics of the traditional
movement as simple nostalgia.

The people have been praying fervently for the past few years now. The posters
have all been put up. So its not that the people are not praying enough or that
there is not enough awareness. I think the spotlight should now shine on the
quality of the local seminary.

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